Thursday, January 29, 2009

Salience and psychosis

Dr. Shitij Kapur is a psychiatrist-neuroscientist at the University of Toronto. He is articulate and creative. Among a number of contributions to a better understanding of psychosis, he has recently proposed a model of psychosis that focuses on the concept of ‘salience’.

Salience, in this model, is defined as a determination, by the brain, as to the relevance, to the person (organism), of any mental experience. Some mental experiences are significant, others are not. The latter can be ignored.

Experiences that are salient, on the other hand, are added to our conceptual framework, our understanding of the world, our beliefs about what is happening.

The heart of Kapur’s model is the idea that psychosis arises from a relative inability of the brain to determine salience. The brain can’t tell the differences between relevant and irrelevant information. There are obvious implications of this inability on the resulting conceptual frameworks, our belief systems.

Let’s look at a simple example. Walking down the street I notice a man sitting in a car, smoking a cigarette. A moment later a woman walks past the car, stops and answers a call on her cell phone. I think nothing of it; no salience to me.

But suppose I couldn’t tell if those two events were salient or not and I assumed, therefore, that they might be. This could start me off a train of thought and speculation. To begin, if these experiences are salient, there must be some reason, related to me, that the man is in the car as I walk by. Was he there to watch me? Was it the man in the car who called the woman? If so, are they working together to spy on me? As you can see, I am well on my way to paranoid delusional system, a belief system that is based on fundamentally flawed ‘evidence’; evidence that is flawed because I am unable to determine salience.

It is interesting that Kapur’s model proposes that psychotic experiences, delusion beliefs in this case, are actually formed in exactly the same way as non-psychotic beliefs. The only difference is that delusions incorporate experiences (information) that are not actually relevant (salient).

One clinical implication is that the person who has formed the delusional belief is as sure that it is true as they are about any non-psychotic belief they hold. Why shouldn’t they be; the belief was formed through the same process.

7 comments:

  1. hi dave,
    i like the idea of salience.i guess the next question for me is what determines salience? And from a Buddhist perspetive,in terms of determining salience, are we talking about karma/the skhanda's(someome who knows more about abidharma could probably answer this) i think it's fascinating to contemplate. it's great to have ideas about mind and psyschosis being talked about- keep going!

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  2. Thanks Kiwi,
    Wonderful to hear from you; I hope you will share your thoughts on this blog whenever you can.
    I am definitely not a Buddhist scholar, nor a psychologist, so I have only my own simple minded thinking about the relationship between salience (a psychological concept) and various Buddhist concepts.
    It does seem to me that a fundamental aspect of salience is that experience is referenced to “me”, that is “does this experience have relevance to me”, which indicates that there is a sense of a separate “self”. So, from a Buddhist point of view, this is happening somewhere after the basic split of creating self and other.
    I also associate it with the three poisons; passion, aggression and ignorance. Going beyond the simple salience (is this relevant to me) there is the question of in what way it is relevant. An experience could support the sense of self, so I like it and want it (passion), or it could threaten my sense of self, so I don’t like it and want to push it away (aggression) or it doesn’t really seem to impact on my sense of self so I can ignore it. The cognitive therapy people might call that some kind of basic ‘appraisal’, which might be an elaboration of the basic salience process.
    What do you think?

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  3. Hi dave,
    i think we are talking about the same thing-the idea that our predominate style of interracting with the world in terms of the buddha families-be it with passion, aggression or ignorance is an aspect of out karmic heritage and will partly account for the way we formulate salience in our mind. from psychologists i know, they do work with the more coarse aspects of salience in the form of attributional biases thru CBT. it gets interesting for me when we try to get to the much more subtle aspects of mind that hopefully we are trying to cultivate in practice- and how the idea of salience might or might not be so relevant at that point- do you think that's possible?

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  4. maybe at a subtle level it would be about not trying to assign any meaning (salience) to experience; something like the Buddhist image of 'one taste'. What happens is just what it is without any interpretation.
    It seems like in psychosis you attach meaning to everything; just the opposite of one taste. Does that sound right?

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  5. Hi Dave
    yes- i think that's it! (and salience determines precicesly what you attach meaning to)
    groovy.....

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  6. Groovy...

    If we look at the world being ruled by the forces of good and evil, which applies to individuals and Organizations as well, and evil is being classified as those forces that break the law, in short crimes, we observe that there are individuals who from their sense of morality have to battle these crimes while the rest does not seem to care of plays dumb and organizations and governments cover up their crimes against humanity by obstructing justice and lies in the media, this observation reveals the inherent danger of "salience thinking".

    Classifying people with a "salience syndrome" because they think something is important, such a rape of children in Catholic Churches while the rest does not care, is of course a serious offense...

    I have personal experiences with mr Jim van Os who has classified me with "psychosis", "schizophrenia", "paranoia" etc, within the problem of the mandatory bell-ringer policy of the Dutch multinational Royal Philips, where I have been summoned to report violations against the Philips Code of Conduct, in my position as an employee with twenty years of employment by this company, after which the Philips management took revenge, and the Dutch government plays obstruction of justice, and so I am a prosecuted citizen due to corruption.

    We thus observe among other things how well the concept of "salience thinking" is beneficial to criminals who have every reason to obstruct justice to cover up their crimes against humanity. Of course I know that mr J van Os is a player here, and so I have began to investigate his evil practices in this domain and so I stumbled on this concept of his to replace "schizophrenia" with "salience thinking". I observe next that would mr J van Os be a sincere scientist he would not use the term "schizophrenia" in my medical file while he advocates to abolish the
    term all together. Which makes him at least guilty of inadequate care of my person and his sincerity as a doctor is again in dispute.

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  7. I continue in this posting because a posting a limited to max 4096 characters,

    I see that mr Whitehorn is a Buddhist, and so I continue with a statement of Dalai Lama I found on the net : There is a saying in Tibetan that \u201cat the door of the miserable rich man sleeps the contented beggar.\u201d I conclude further that mr Dalai Lama does not appear to me the be a beggar so maybe he should try this for himself. Next, if the beggar is so contend why does he sleep at the door of a rich man? This reveals the again crime of obstruction of justice because mr Dalai Lama slyly teaches us not to care about beggars sleeping at our door because they are "contend". And so also mr Dalai Lama is under my suspicion not to care about human rights and so is thus Buddhism. Unless mr Dalai Lama is a corrupt Buddhist, in which case he should resign so he can try to sleep at the doors of rich men for himself for a while, and we can have him diagnosed afterwards according to for example DSM-V to see what kind of psychological disorders he has developed. For example "paranoia" due to fear of being mauled on the streets which is of course only "his" imagination so he suffers also from hallucinations and delusions. And let me add "schizophrenia" or the "Dysfunctional Perception Syndrome" to his list as well because it is clear that mr Dalai Lama find issues important which we do not. Such as finding a toilet. And so clearly if mr Dalai Lama finds these issues important while we do not, because we have toilets in our house, he must be suffering from the "Dysfunctional Perception Syndrome". In other words in plain english : Who gives a fuck about beggars and prosecuted citizens.
    Of course we have to be clever not to reveal ourselves as criminals and so we invite people such as mr J van Os to cover up these crimes by means of nice semi-scientific rezoning such as "salienece thinking" Others who do not think like we do and do not find these things important that we do must be clearly suffering from mental disorders so we can get rid of them for example by locking them up in mental institutions or even fry their brains if they do not behave. See also the movie "One Flew over the Cuckoos Nest".

    It is interesting to notice that from this posting, http://www.health-forums.com/alt-support-schizophrenia/dsm-v-salience-syndrome-129925.html where I have found a very nice summary from Marcel who attended a speech from mr J van Os on this subject, that the "salience thinking movement" gains popularity in England (David Witehorn), Japan, Hong-Kong (China) and Korea. We observe that at least China and Korea are known for crimes against humanity.

    I conclude to say that I am a Christian and so I did what I did based on the teachings of the God of Israel, His Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. Because I claim to have a true relationship with the Lord God mr J van Os thinks I am "psychotic". Of course only after I accused Royal Ducth Philips of corruption after twenty years of empolyment history.

    my e~mail is o.popp@chello.nl. Who would like to have documentation on this subject can let me know. There is also a package I gave mr J van Os.

    Mat 5,
    21 \u201cYou have heard that it was said to the ancient ones, \u2018You shall not murder;\u2019 and \u2018Whoever shall murder shall be in danger of the judgment.\u2019 22 But I tell you, that everyone who is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment; and whoever shall say to his brother, \u2018Raca !\u2019 shall be in danger of the council; and whoever shall say, \u2018You fool!\u2019 shall be in danger of the fire of Gehenna .

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